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badassmexicans:

If I had a dollar for every time some random Filipino person would come up to me and Say. “Oh yeah I have a Spanish Last nameYOUR PEOPLE came to my country and changed it. That’s why I have a Spanish last name and why my language sounds a lot like yours!”. Then for some reason its followed by them counting up to 10 in Spanish. First of all MY PEOPLE are not Spanish, I’m Mexican . Second of all MY PEOPLE suffered the same fate of colonization from the Spanish as YOUR PEOPLE so don’t go and blame me for what Magellan did to YOUR PEOPLE!

BAM

selchieproductions:

neetainari:

Johan, want to take this Celtic prince for a ride? I can’t because I’m crying because I’m laughing so hard.

Pagan cultures.

Wah, fuckin, wah.

Oh. My. Sweet. Mother. of. Jesus. 

rafiki-town:

You wanna talk cultural appropriation? Look at the Irish. Their entire culture is appropriated from Scotland…except for the excessive drinking and leprechauns. But the bagpipes, kilts, step dancing, celtic music…all of that originates from Scotland. They say that the ancient Irish peoples most likely come from Germania, and were in fact not a Celtic people.

Obh mo chreach, someone doesn’t know shite about Celtic people.

Also, in which world are the only cultural traits of the Irish a bunch of green men and alcoholism?

Oh, right, in Hollywood. 

First of all, you’re failing to distinguish between two, within Scotland, different cultures, i.e. Gaelic and Scots cultures, secondly, the Scottish Gaels - i.e. Scotland’s Celts - came from Ireland, not the other way round. The Scots came from Scandinavia and the Netherlands.

And guess what, Scottish Gaelic is a daughter language of Irish Gaelic.

Thirdly, you seem to know fuck all about real Scottish culture. Fourthly, the bagpipes were invented by the Hitite and the biggest producer of bagpipes today is the incredibly non-Celtic country of Pakistan.

Fifthly, your understanding of Celtic music is flawed and most likely based on a false understanding of who the Celts were - Celts spanned Europe for several hundred years, living in areas from the Black Sea to Portugal. Galician and Breton folk music is as Celtic as Scottish and Irish folk music.

Sixthly, Irish and Gaelic music share many similarities but are also highly different. We have the puirt, the Irish have sean-nós and so on and so forth.

Seventhly, the Irish have one of the longest surviving literary histories in Europe and eightly; if I hear anyone reduce Scottishness to step dancing and bagpipes again I will shove a set of pipes up someones arse. 

You wanna talk prejudice and mistreatment based on culture? How about when the English raped and pillaged and murdered Scotsman, simply because they were Scotsman? They thought, “Hey, let’s just breed them out. So we’ll rape new wives on their wedding night, and make sure those bastards are ours.”

Jus primæ noctis is a myth, but good on you for using Braveheart, the movie, rather than real history when talking about the Scots and the British Isles’ history of civil war.

Or, can we talk about how Christians appropriated almost all of their holidays/traditions from Pagan cultures? And then burned, hanged, drowned, tortured, and molested witches, and anyone who didn’t conform to Christian beliefs?

Of course, you can talk about whatever you want, but I don’t tend to listen to people who gets their information from Hollywood. You referenced Braveheart a couple of sentences back, I tend to not listen to people who think Braveheart accurately depicts Scottish history.

And let me just point out one thing; Christians did not per se commit the crimes that you’re accusing them of, but rather the Church as an institution and there is a big difference between the two.

No, we can’t? Because that would involve “white” cultures getting appropriated too? White people are the root of all evil? All white people are ignorant? All white people are racist? All white people need to “sit down and shut the fuck up?” All white people say stupid things, and all the things they say are racist, or are tied to their “white privilege?” That sounds racist to me.

In short racism is a systematic form of oppression based on a combination of prejudice and power. What you’re talking about is prejudice.

I’m not saying that racism doesn’t exist, or that it’s not a very real issue. What I’m saying is that it isn’t black and white, pun intended. There’s a whole range of in between, and I dislike being judged based on my SKIN COLOUR just as much as you do. My ancestors were also hated based on ethnicity, and culture. My ancestors were also poorly mistreated. But I am not my ancestors.

And yet you cannot argue against the fact that you benefit from the system your ancestors helped create in which non-white people are considered less human, trustworthy and what not than white people. The way to be an ally here is not to state how not racist you are today, but to realise that your place in today’s society is highly different from that of other races and minorities and if you want to change the world, you’re not doing it by claiming that those who are oppressed are oppressing you, simply because they dare question a system where they’re seen as less than white or white-passing people.

Can we give the cultural appropriation thing a rest now?Every culture has appropriated from another. Almost everything was appropriated at some point. Appropriation does not have to be a bad thing. It can be a very good thing. It can bridge the gaps between cultures. Yes, wearing religious symbols without knowing what they mean can be offensive (headdresses) and it’s understandable because all of the Native cultures have been practically erased by awful things done in the past. But I am NOT my ancestors. I am me. I didn’t do those things to you. I didn’t do those things to your ancestors.

But if you continue to spread their prejudiced views, are you really that much better than them? The answer is no. Also, the idea that everyone ‘appropriates’ is based of a misunderstanding of theft vs. mutual exchange. Appropriation is a crime, forming pan-cultural expressions based on mutual understandings of each others cultures is not. 

If you want to talk issues, talk issues, but don’t bring cultural appropriation into it. Bring stereotypes into it (that would include “playing Indian” on Halloween). Bring actual mistreatment into it. But don’t blame the issues on cultural appropriation, because that’s not the root. People aren’t mistreated because of cultural appropriation. They’re mistreated because of racism, stereotypes, and hatred. That goes for all “races,” ethnicities, and cultures.

How nice of you to tell us what we get to be upset about. 

And on the dreads thing: IT’S THE NATURAL STATE OF ALL HAIR TYPES. Something that is NATURAL is not CULTURAL. Why do you think people have to brush their hair, and put conditioner in it? If they don’t, it locks up. That’s called the “neglect method.” It works.

Eh, naw. Dreads are not the natural state of all hair types. Where did you get that from? Pixar? 

That’s like saying that Europeans can’t eat pineapples because they come from South America. That’s stupid. If it’s natural…if it comes from Nature, it belongs to NO ONE, and no specific culture. This includes feathers, and stones, and specific cloth types.

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